Evolution and Islam

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Evolution and Islam

Post by iSilurian » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:23 pm

Many muslims in the western world are finding ways to conform both Islam and evolution together in harmony. So i am presenting a website created by western muslims in hopes the reach out to the world to express these concepts.


Doctor Salman Hameed, (shameed@hampshire.edu) is currently designing a website to assist with conveying ideas. The website also contains a blog in which he speaks about Islam and science, it is very interesting material and should be recognized by all Muslims.

Also there is a book, "Islam's Quantum Question: Reconciling Muslim Tradition and Modern Science" by Nidhal Guessoum

This book absolutely should be read by ALL muslims who feel that they are here to find the truth in Allah and his creation. Understanding Allahs creation in its full beauty is essential for being a true muslim, and this book presents such ideas.

ok, feeamanillah

~ iSilurian

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Re: Evolution and Islam

Post by TheAtheist » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:56 am

If you have a tooth ache, do you go to your cleric to have a look at it - no, of course not you see a dentist.
If you have a stomach ache, do you go to your cleric to have a look at it - no, of course not you see a doctor.
If you have to do your tax return, do you go to your cleric to have a look at it - no, of course not you see a accountant.

So why when it comes to things scientific do you ask your cleric?
Without a doubt the best body of scientific study is the American Academy of Science.
With 99% of its members supporting the principals of Evolution.

if you have a moral delemma by all means ask your cleric, that is where his expertise is.

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Evolution and Islam

Post by AbuAmin » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:14 am

In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficial

Evolutionists assume evolution is true, then write endlessly about when and where it happened, rates and lineages, etc.  But if macroevolution is physically impossible in the real world, and it is, then all the rest is fantasy. There are only two possibilities. Either every part of every living thing arose by random chance, or an intelligence designed them. It is now clear that the theory of evolution's only mechanism for building new parts and creatures, mutation-natural selection, is totally, utterly, pathetically inadequate. In spite of overwhelming evidence that the theory of evolution is dead wrong, many are not ready to throw in the towel. 

They desperately hope that some natural process will be found that causes things to fall together into organized complexity. These are people of great faith. And they are so afraid of connecting God with science that, like the Japanese Army of World War II, they would rather die than surrender. Unfortunately, the staunchest defenders sit in places of esteem and authority as professors, scientists, and editors, and have the full faith of the news media. The public is naturally in awe of their prestige. 

But once the facts are understood it becomes obvious that the theory of evolution is long overdue for the trash can, and to perpetuate it is fraud.  Perhaps it made sense for what was known when On the Origin of Species was published in 1859, but not today.

Our creator, Allah (God) informs us 1433 years ago the following:-

“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ — and he was” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:59] 

This dust was moistened until it became sticky mud or clay that stuck to the hands. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): 

“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth)” [al-Mu’minoon 23:12] 

“Verily, We created them of a sticky clay”  [al-Saaffaat 37:12] 

Then it became dried (sounding) clay of altered mud. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): 

“And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud” [al-Hijr 15:26] 

Then when it dried it became sounding clay like the clay of pottery. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): 

“He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery” [al-Rahmaan 55:14] 

Then Allah moulded it into the form that He wanted and breathed into him (his) soul created by Him. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): 

“(Remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘Truly, I am going to create man from clay’. So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him.” [Saad 38:71-72] 

These are the stages through which the creation of Adam passed according to the Qur'an. As for the stages of creation which the progeny of Adam pass through, Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): 

“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth).

Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman).

Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So Blessed is Allah, the Best of creators.”
 [al-Mu’minoon 23:12-14] 

With regard to the wife of Adam – Hawwa’ (Eve) – Allah tells us that He created her from him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): 

“O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women.” [al-Nisa’ 4:1]

Those that are still in doubt please feel free to study the so called 'great proofs and discoveries' for evolution such as the Piltdown Man, Java Man, Orce Man, Neanderthal and so on. Do your own research and you will discover the great frauds that 'some people' have gone to in order to enforce the theory of evolution into society. May Allah save us from these evil theories which contradict the word of our creator (Al-Qur'an) and are the work of evil people who are determined to ultimately create a Godless society.

All praise and thanks to our creator we don't need any advice from shaytaan (Satan) to inform us where we originated from. As any suggestion that takes mankind away from his true creator- Allah (God), is obviously and without a shadow of doubt the handiwork of non other than the devil.

And Allah knows best. May Allah guide us all to the truth and may Allah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad.

Piltdown man: Found in a gravel pit in Sussex England in 1912, this fossil was considered by some sources to be the second most important fossil proving the evolution of man—until it was found to be a complete forgery 41 years later. The skull was found to be of modern age. The fragments had been chemically stained to give the appearance of age, and the teeth had been filed down!

Nebraska man: A single tooth, discovered in Nebraska in 1922 grew an entire evolutionary link between man and monkey, until another identical tooth was found which was protruding from the jawbone of a wild pig.

Java man: Initially discovered by Dutchman Eugene Dubois in 1891, all that was found of this claimed originator of humans was a skullcap, three teeth and a femur. The femur was found 50 feet away from the original skullcap a full year later. For almost 30 years Dubois downplayed the Wadjak skulls (two undoubtedly human skulls found very close to his "missing link"). (source: Hank Hanegraaff, The Face That Demonstrates The Farce Of Evolution, [Word Publishing, Nashville, 1998], pp.50-52)

Orce man: Found in the southern Spanish town of Orce in 1982, and hailed as the oldest fossilized human remains ever found in Europe. One year later officials admitted the skull fragment was not human but probably came from a 4 month old donkey. Scientists had said the skull belonged to a 17 year old man who lived 900,000 to 1.6 million years ago, and even had very detail drawings done to represent what he would have looked like. (source: "Skull fragment may not be human", Knoxville News-Sentinel, 1983)

Neanderthal: Still synonymous with brutishness, the first Neanderthal remains were found in France in 1908. Considered to be ignorant, ape-like, stooped and knuckle-dragging, much of the evidence now suggests that Neanderthal was just as human as us, and his stooped appearance was because of arthritis and rickets. Neanderthals are now recognized as skilled hunters, believers in an after-life, and even skilled surgeons, as seen in one skeleton whose withered right arm had been amputated above the elbow. (source: "Upgrading Neanderthal Man", Time Magazine, May 17, 1971, Vol. 97, No. 20)
مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ رِجَالٌ صَدَقُوا مَا عَاهَدُوا اللَّـهَ عَلَيْهِ ۖ فَمِنْهُم مَّن قَضَىٰ نَحْبَهُ وَمِنْهُم مَّن يَنتَظِرُ ۖ وَمَا بَدَّلُوا تَبْدِيلًا

Among the believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah, of them some have fulfilled their obligations, and some of them are still waiting, but they have never changed in the least. (Quran 33:23)

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Re: Evolution and Islam

Post by Russell » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:56 am

Let me ask you a couple of questions?

Who was it who exposed the fraud of Pilthdown Man? Was it a religious cleric or a scientist? When was the validity of the Pilthodown specimen first scientifically questioned, was it 40 years after its discovery or virtually immediately upon its public release?

Dubois discovery of Java Man was indeed a very fragmentary find but much more complete finds have since come to light confirming the majority of the details he ascertained from his find. So based on fragmentary evidence he correctly identified a new human ancestor predicting before the fact later more complete finds of the same species. Making predictions of future discoveries is what science is all about.

Ocre man is a skull fragment that is too small to be easy to identify. Scientific argument over what exactly it is has continued for years and the jury is still out. It is not clasified as a human ancestor at this stage. Again this is science working as it should.

Homo sapiens neanderthalensis are certainly not modern humans with disease damage, how could an entire population get exactly the same diseases? They are very close ancestors but they are distinguished from moderns by these consistent features heavy brow ridges, a long low skull, a robust skeleton and many more. Modern humans do not have these traits leading some scientists to suggest that they should be classified as Homo neanderthalensis, a separate species, due to the level of consistent differences they show to modern humans. Yes they were very close to us and showed some amazingly modern traits but they were clearly not human as we know it today. They were not Homo Sapiens Sapiens by any stretch.

All the best

The invisible and the non existant look a lot alike!

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